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Look at what is stated in Deuteronomy:. From the writings of Paul in The New Testament, we see even stronger confirmation indicating that worshiping an idol is really an act of worshiping demons. It should be clear that these gods or demons are really Satan and his evil angels, and that they have not made anything nor can they make anything. They will not be allowed to continue to live.

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They will be destroyed and they will have an end. God alone will rule. Of the two opposing sides in the intergalactic war; Only God will rule because He is the Creator, this power is what separates the two sides. Satan has never had the same power, and it is clear from the Scriptural texts below that the evil angels literally shook with fright when they confronted Christ while He was on the Earth. This kind of conflict didn't happen once, here is an other example of demons speaking out against Jesus:. This time the demon cried out saying: It's not time yet.

So what is it that Satan and his opposing group of evil angels were trying to do? How did they think they could win against God? Does the Bible say anything about other worlds? Most people seem not to think that other worlds were even thought about by the writers of the Bible. But there are places where the Bible does seem to indicate that people inhabit the universe.

The Bible seems to primarily speak of our own world and of angels, But what does the Bible say about other worlds? We must only ask why God would create such a large Universe if it is totally empty except for our little Earth. Let's see if there is evidence that there are actually many worlds that are inhabited in the Universe. Ephesians shows that there is a family of people in heaven and there is a family on earth as well. God has made all the heavens with all their host. This represents the multitudes of people found in the heavens.

These are they in heaven that worships God. God's people are a spectacle to not only our world but to the universe as well. If the word, "world" is used, it doesn't make sense since the angels are not part of this world. But if the word, "universe" is used, then men might also refer to those in the universe and not just the earth. I especially like this quote. In the next section, we will explore what really happened as described by Job. The sons of God people came to present themselves before the Lord.

In the next verse we find that Satan also came. He saw himself as being part of this group. When God asked Satan why he came, he essentially told God that Earth was actually his. If that is true, then all the other people that came must be the rulers or leaders of all the other planets of the Universe. This is all very interesting to me and is discussed in the next section. The inhabitants of the earth and sea are woe striken because Satan is now on this world.

But all the heavens can rejoice. This describes all the people who dwell in all the heavens:. There must be quite a number of people who live in the heavens. This text in Revelation is referring specifically to those who dwell in the heavens. How does Satan gain the advantage when he gets Eve to sin against God? Satan wants Eve to eat the fruit so Satan can win some how. So, what does Satan get out of Eve's sin? Our first clue comes from the book of Job. Not only are we told what happens to Job, but we also get to understand what is happening behind the scenes.

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Also understand that the story of Job is extremely important to the question: Why does God permits suffering? As depicted in the book of Job, there is a meeting in Heaven. It must be in heaven because there is no record of God having regular meetings with the sons of God on Earth. In addition we find that Satan is also present and apparently he should not be there. At least it sounds like he is uninvited. Even God asks why he has come. We most likely are looking at a meeting of extraterrestrials, people from other worlds. Each member at the meeting is a representative of their own world.

We can know that this is a meeting of representatives because of how Satan says he has a right to be there. We will see that Satan is saying that he is the representative of Earth! So what we have here is a system of government for the Universe that God Himself oversees. Apparently this was an important event. In this meeting the sons of God are presenting themselves before the Lord. It seems that all who were there, except one, had a right to be there. At least we don't have any record of God questioning their presence. The whole point of this part of the story is that Satan was not invited.

When God asked Satan why he was there, he essentially answered: Is Satan claiming ownership? Remember, this intergalactic war is over the question of ownership of the throne of Heaven. Satan wants the throne. Apparently, Satan is starting a legal process that he thinks will allow him to take over one planet, the Earth. In the meeting, Satan seems to conclude that he either owns or he rules our world.

He is actually claiming rulership of the Earth in that meeting! That is why I think he went to the meeting. He sees himself as the leader of the whole planet Earth. This meeting most likely is a meeting of the leaders of the Universe with God; So Satan felt he had a right to be there. Because of the fact that God answers Satan, we should understand that what they were talking about was extremely important! Why didn't God just throw Satan out? God already threw Satan out of Heaven once before. God could have thrown Satan out again, but He didn't. He definitely has the power to do so.

But instead, God just questioned Satan verbally and challenged his stated position. We should realize that the manner in which God answered Satan is important as well. They were not talking by themselves, there was an audience surrounding them. All the representatives of the Universe were there personally witnessing what was happening.

Remember, we most likely are looking at a meeting of extraterrestrials. A system of government for the Universe that God Himself oversees. Since Satan himself has rebelled against God, we can see that the rebellion was trying to enter into the system of government of God's Universe! If it was a matter of power, God could have destroyed Satan right there, or He could have just thrown him out. But God did not. Instead, God entered into dialog with him. Let's talk about the dialog itself. If this discussion wasn't concerning ownership or rulership of the Earth; then, why does God answer Satan's statement of walking over the face of the Earth, with: In this discussion, by saying that he walks over the face of the earth; What Satan is really saying is this: So God begins questioning Satan's claim by pointing his attention to Job, whom Satan is not able to control.

What God is doing, is to show that Satan really does not control the world. So, God emphasizes the fact that Job is upright, just, and that he fears God. I can imagine that Satan here begins to squirm as he essentially says: Well of course Job likes you. You give him everything he wants, why wouldn't he obey You? So God tells him: OK, I'll let you try. We'll see who really is in control, but you can't touch his body to make him sick. If you read the book of Job, you will see that Job does not know a thing about this discussion. He is clearly having a hard time with the reality of his bad fortune.

In addition he is forced to consider, from an earthly point of view, why all sorts of bad things are happening to him. Satan seems to be controlling all Job's personal friends as well. This story is very interesting. Apparently Satan's ownership of the Earth depends upon everyone being subject to Satan's leading. As long as Job was a decided follower of God, Satan could not claim the Earth.

We actually do not know if Job was the only follower of God, but at least he was the one that God chose to mention. Does this war Between God and Satan depend upon the allegiance of people? It would seem so, the whole story in the book of Job is dependent on the idea that things will be decided, on what one person does on earth.

If Job continues to follow God then God has the advantage, on the other hand, if Job listened to his wife and friends and cursed God, then Satan would have had the advantage. That is if he was the only righteous person on the world. Something really terrible and awful must have happened in Heaven when Satan rebelled. To have a third of all the angels of Heaven take off to side with Satan, against God in a war. Remember this rebellion happened in Heaven! How could this happen? To have the angels who live in Heaven, in the very presence of God, to rebel against God himself!

What did Satan do to the angels to have them rebel against God? What did he say to them that would make them fight against God Himself? We know that God is all powerful, that He created all things. So why would they decide to enter a war that could not be won by power? They must have known something about God perhaps. It is quite possible that they knew enough about God that they were confident that God would play fair. God would keep to the rules of the Universe that He has created. So they knew that this war must be over opinions rather than power. All the worlds of the Universe might have to decide who is right in this war.

It is also possible, that because Satan is the source of evil in the Universe, that he and his new followers just became so selfish that they lost all sense of reason when they started demanding things of God. They knew that God would play by the rules even when they broke the rules. They probably thought they could take advantage of God.

A second meeting of the sons of God with God is described in Job chapter two. Again the same issues are brought up but with slightly different specifics in the arguments. Satan failed the first time around to change Job's allegiance from God to himself. So this time he is calling fowl. He still claims the Earth as his and he wants even more power in trying to force Job to obey him. Read the account and see what happens.

We can see from the actual text that Satan still claims the Earth. It seems that Satan believes that if all people were under his control then the Earth would rightfully belong to him! There also seems to be some truth to Satan's claim since God counters Satan on the very level that Satan is thinking on. It seems that these meetings are a regular event and here, God counters Satan's claim by pointing to Job which Satan was unable to control. God adds to what He said before by stating: Also very interesting to note, we see that God takes the blame! He doesn't say that Satan is moving to destroy Job but He says that you have moved me against him, to destroy him.

Let's study how Satan attacked Eve. We see that Eve was exploring the garden that God had given them when she approached the forbidden tree. As she was wondering why God did not want them to eat from that tree, Satan went in for the attack:. When Satan came to our world with two people on it, some how he had to win their allegiance to him. This is according to what we found out from Job's experience.

He had to become their leader in order to take over the world. As we can see in the third chapter of Genesis, Satan used deception to not only place doubt in the mind of Eve about God, but he was really saying that God is not fair. Satan played on her emotions to get her to want to become like God herself. It is amazing what Satan had done. In just a few words, he was able to give Eve a whole new series of ideas.

Now, her thoughts were directed to the idea that God is not being fair to her. God is lying while He holds back what should rightfully be hers. While she thinks these kind of thoughts, desire now becomes the major motive that forces her to eat the forbidden fruit. Earlier, we saw that Satan himself wanted to become like God. Now we see that he is tempting Eve with the very same thought in mind. This is very interesting, we now see that Satan tempted Eve using the same thirst for power, the same desire to become like God, that Satan himself felt.

Satan literally gave the same sins that he had, to Eve. The same desires he had for power, he gave to Eve. It stands to reason, that Satan used the same strategy in Heaven as he later used on earth with Eve. He some how made all of the angels who followed him to be unsatisfied with their positions in Heaven. Maybe Satan's followers became jealous of God. Satan must have told them that God was holding back on them, and that they should have more power. The same wicked desires that Satan has, he gave to his angels, to take over God's throne and have the power for themselves.

That is why these angels are evil today. They have the same desires as Satan and they work along with him in destroying the human race. They will do anything to get their own wishes and takeover God's Throne. By looking at the history of our world, it is obvious that Satan and his evil angels have been trying to convert the world to their side so they can claim the world as their own. In fact they have almost always had the majority siding with them.

Only a minority has ever followed God. However, there has always been at least one person who was true to God. Eve, as she is realizing that Satan is correct, she is now passing her allegiance from God to Satan. One third of all the angels had already decided to follow Satan, now Eve is doing the same thing. The issues Satan is raising, are apparently powerful arguments. If Satan was able to win a third of all the angels in Heaven, and now the newly created Eve, what sort of questions might the people on the other worlds have?

Do the people in the other worlds know anything about the war at all? It seems that they do. In the meetings depicted in the first two chapters of Job, we saw that everything was done out in the open. Both Satan and God spoke in front of all the other representatives from the other planets of the Universe. Everything that happened occurred in front of everyone! God actually listens to Satan and answers his charges rather than throwing him out.

When Satan says that Job will curse God to his face. God says, OK, why don't you try and see what Job will do. When Satan comes back after having failed the first time, he is still combative saying that if he can make Job really hurt with pain and sickness, Job will then curse God. God answers Satan by allowing him to try again, and harder than he was allowed the first time with physical pain. It seems that God is allowing Satan's accusations to be tried out in front of the whole universe.

He is not allowing his question to be unanswered. Which makes sense when we consider that all the representatives are listening. At the same time, Satan is having to act out his intentions before the whole universe as well. How far is Satan willing to go in destroying those around him so he can acquire ownership of a world? What kind of government would Satan have? What would be the character of his government? Is Satan really offering a better idea than God? So maybe the other worlds are watching the events of this war and maybe they do have questions about what is going on in the rebellion.

It looks like the whole universe has had to grapple with the idea that there is a rebellion that started in the very place where God is! How could that be? In addition, Satan, as can be understood in the book of Job, met with God in an open way that is most likely designed to create the most questions in the minds of the Leaders of the Universe. In the Bible we have seen some of the evidence that the war is about people's opinion.

On the earth, it seems that it concerns people's allegiance. Who will we serve, Jesus or Satan. In Heaven, where a third of the angels chose Satan, it looks like the same issues were important. What about the rest of the Universe? What are the issues that they are looking at in this rebellion? Why does Satan really want to take over the throne. Is it because God really is a tyrant and that Satan is trying to protect us by showing us a better way of living? Or is it that Satan himself is the real tyrant, that he is the selfish one, and he only wants the power of the throne for himself?

In addition, God and Satan seem to be following a set of rules. Thus, the battle is probably a legal or technical battle. If there is not a real war between God and Satan, then how might we explain the things happening in the world? Is this thing of having Satan tempt us, and God letting it happen, all a game? What is really happening in the stories we read in the Bible? Is there an actual battle for the ownership of the Earth that is occurring behind the scenes to explain what is happening? Or, do we have God and Satan playing a game with the human race in the middle?

It will take a knowledge of the entire Bible to answer what is really happening. Either God and Satan are playing a game with us in the center, the object of their attention, or Satan is really attacking God. When Satan has gone over the line, when he goes too far and tries to take the throne as indicated in Daniel He will at that time end the misery that continues to presently plaque our world. Death, destruction, and suffering will come to an end at last! Initially, Adam and Eve had ownership of the world.

God gave the world and all the animals to Adam. See what God said when He first made them:. When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, they both sinned against God. In that act they lost ownership of the world and they gave it to Satan. Adam would have forever been the head of our world but now he has lost his position and his possession as ruler of the earth, and Satan now rules. When Jesus was on this earth He Himself said that Satan was the ruler of this ruler. We are still praying for God's will to occur on earth as it is in Heaven.

We are praying for this because His will is still not yet happening fully. Jesus has not yet taken authority of our world. Death and destruction are still occurring all around us. Jesus still has not taken our world away from Satan. We know that is true because we are still here! However, Jesus especially talked about Satan, that he will be cast out and judged. Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. However, Jesus with pity for the human race has stepped in to reclaim both them and the world.

As we continue to study the Bible we can see that it will take some time for Jesus to reclaim the ownership from Satan:. In Revelation, starting with chapter 4 we see that there is a court session in Heaven. Daniel refers to this same session in Daniel 7: This occurs at the time of the end. This is the only time that we know of that Satan actually kills someone himself, personally. In Bible times, it took two people to convict someone. Is this needed for the court proceedings? This action seems to be "the straw that breaks the camel's back". When Satan sits down, Michael stands up Daniel 12 and the battle of Armageddon occurs.

Satan is not only saying he is the ruler of this world, he is saying he is God! God attacks Satan and his angels and the end of the world comes as Jesus comes to receive His own. Satan has to overstep his authority before God stands up to take away his dominion. So there seems to be a legal battle that is occurring between Jesus and Satan. But one day the court will be in session and Satan's dominion will be taken away from him. Issues that will eventually be brought up in court so that Satan can be thrown out, have not even occurred yet. Today, Jesus has not yet taken His authority over the earth.

It is only much later in the future when Satan tries to sit down as God The Abomination of Desolation that God stands up and the end of all things comes to be. The time that Jesus will rule the earth the kingdoms of this world will not occur until the Seventh Trumpet sounds. It will not be until the Seventh Trumpet sounds that the Kingdom of God will also include the kingdoms of this world, in other words, the earth.

This is why we are still praying for God's will to occur on earth. The Seventh Trumpet sounds essentiall in the last days just before Jesus comes in the clouds of glory. So at the present time, Jesus has not yet taken authority of our world and we continue to pray for His will to take place:. At that time, the time of the seventh angel, Jesus will reign for ever and ever and all the angels of heaven will rejoice because Jesus has taken His great power and has finally began to reign. And then Jesus will come for us to take us to heaven!

Satan was instrumental in having Jesus Christ put to death when He was on earth. Rather than being the end of Jesus, it signaled the beginning of the end of Satan. Christ's death is also the means whereby he will save the righteous. Satan has never gotten the best of Jesus or God. Another plan of attack that Satan has, is to force all people to worship him. If he can force all to follow him instead of God, then he has won! However, If there is even a small minority, even one left who chooses to follow God then Satan has lost! Satan must have the allegiance of all the people on the earth for him to rule it; And we can see in Daniel and Revelation that he will kill anyone who does not choose him as their leader.

Satan will do anything to get to his goal. There is a time, at the end of this world's history, when Satan will pull all the stops in a desperate effort to have a whole world worship him instead of God. Jesus calls this time the time of sorrows. At this time, the end of the world, Satan will either win and have a world, or he will loose everything including life.

Let's look at some prophecies to see what Satan will do to try to stand on the throne of God. I have color coded the following texts to indicate various activities: Red indicates what Satan will do to God's people. Green indicates what Satan will do to blaspheme God and try to take God's throne. Orange indicates what God does to judge Satan and to give the saints the kingdom. We start in the 7th verse of Daniel 7 by seeing that Satan is breaking in pieces and trampling the residue with its feet. The residue is really God's people.

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He is killing the remnant of God's people. Satan is allowed to prevail over God's people for a time, times, and part of a time. All this happens until Judgment occurs in Heaven and Satan is stopped. This action of killing God's people, is confirmation that Satan does indeed have to have the vote of everyone living on the Earth for him to take the throne. We can see that the results of this intergalactic war is indeed dependent upon opinion. Satan has started to eliminate the people who would stand in his way of being the king and leader of this world.

Remember, Satan has to have as followers, everyone on earth who is alive. If Satan cannot trick the righteous into following him, then he will try to kill them outright. Now we can see that Satan will try to exalt himself to the level of Jesus our Prince. Satan can be seen as trying to take over the whole world and exalt himself as the Prince of the host!

In Revelation, we see the exact same actions we saw in Daniel. Purple indicates what the wicked will do to serve Satan. Satan is enraged with all who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Satan knows he does not have much time left and he knows he needs to kill everyone who is loyal to God. We can see that Satan is enraged with those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. It is clear that anyone who keeps all the commandments of God and has the testimony of Jesus, is indeed loyal to God because they worship God with what they do and with what they say.

They are completely loyal to God! We can see that the wicked worships the dragon Satan and the beast. All people who do not have their name written in the Book of Life will worship Satan! To get this to happen Satan had to deceive the whole world. They worship Satan because they want to save their own life, crying out: Who is like the beast?

Who is able to make war with him? They easily see that the beast is too powerful for them and that they will only lose their life if they try to fight it so they choose life. In reality they are choosing death because they are then following Satan. Satan causes all to receive a mark and that no one can buy or sell unless they have this mark. Later they will find out that they have lost everything when they thought to save their own skin and receive the mark. It should be clear that the righteous of the world, living in the last days, will experience the same thing that Job experienced.

Satan has probably demanded that all the people of the world are his and God probably said: So all who will not worship the image of the beast will be ordered to be killed. The last days are the trying time for God's people and the battle between Jesus and Satan is dependent upon what the righteous, the , do. If they hold up, just as Job did; Then Jesus will be victorious in the war. There are many ways Satan can get the allegiance of the people of this world. One of the most dramatic ways is to have people curse God, as he wanted Job to do.

Or to disobey what God would have us do. Another way is to make us so busy that we have no time for God. In this way, the things we are doing have become our god. Today, so many people have become indifferent to the idea of serving God that they will do anything to get ahead in this world. Other things have become more important in their thinking, like living and surviving. So they will do anything that Satan wants them to do just so they can save their skin. There are some who see a real need to get close to God; However, they keep putting off making a decision.

Satan keeps putting ideas and feelings to get them sidetracked. Since Satan is working so hard to get people to look at him for direction, it must be extremely important to him. Obviously, if people don't follow him, he loses his fight! So yes, its important to him. Let's look to see what really makes Satan furiously angry:. Those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ are those who Satan cannot control. And remember, if Satan cannot control everyone, he will lose his goal to rule the world and lose the war against God. It is no wonder that Satan is angry.

All that he has tried to do to get them to follow him has failed. God's people will not follow Satan's lead at all. Rather, they have chosen to follow and do all what the Lord wants them to do. At this point Satan is so enraged with God's people that he wars against them to put them to death.

Since he cannot control them, he will try to exterminate them. To remind you what we saw in Daniel and Revelation, here is a synopsis of Satan's actions against the Righteous in the last days:. It is clear, from the Bible itself, that God's people will not be taken away in some rapture. But rather, we have seen actual scripture that shows that God's people will be hunted and killed for obeying God. God's people will be like Job, experiencing adversity, yet remaining loyal to God even if it means death! Elsewhere, in the book of Revelation, we see that the righteous are again identified as those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus:.

In a time of great hardship, as described in Revelation, God's people are identified as those needing endurance patience to continue till the end. Again, this group is identified as those who keep the commandments of God and remain loyal to Jesus. It will indeed require patience on their part, as they are being hunted and killed. But they hang on because they know that Jesus will one day come to save them from their trouble.

When God's people inherit a new life with God, it is because they have been completely loyal to God by keeping his commandments and following him in all ways that they will have a right to eat from the tree of life, and they will have the right to enter into the gates of the New Jerusalem where we will live with God forever. Only the Righteous will be allowed to enter! Satan will try to take over the world and endeavor to force all the inhabitants of the world to follow him, and he will do his best to kill anyone that goes against his plans.

However, as indicated in Scripture: Satan will come to his end. He will be destroyed. Blue indicates what God's people, the righteous will do to serve God. We can see the same process but with more detail in Daniel Satan will see that he can not turn the righteous toward serving him. So, in desperation, he will try to sit on the throne anyway despite the fact that he has no right to do so. It is at that time that God will stop him in his tracts because he will have gone too far. Look at the following texts:. In the verses above, we actually see that Satan will defile the sanctuary fortress, take away the daily, and place there the abomination of desolation.

He will put his palace on the glorious holy mountain of God for the purpose of declaring himself as king. When Satan places the abomination of desolation planting his palace between the seas and the glorious holy mountain he is saying: I rule the earth! In this action that Satan does, he over steps his bounds. He has gone too far. He does not rule the earth because he has not been able to get all to worship him. Nor was he able to make Jesus sin when He was on this earth.

It is then that Michael Jesus stands up and Satan will come to his end! A time of trouble will occur at this time that will be unequaled in history and God's people who are alive, the ,, will be delivered. Everyone who is found written in the book of life will be delivered and raised up from the dead! Many think that everything has been done at the Cross, when Jesus died. However, here in Daniel, we find that it is when Satan sits down as the ruler on Earth, this is when God begins to act!

God brings an end to Satan and his war against God and God's people. Satan has gone too far in fighting God and He will bring Satan to an end. In the Book of Job, we saw that Job was tested for a time, however when it was all over, God rewarded him. God set things right.

In the last days, we will find that God's people will also be tested for a time, but when Satan steps over the line and sits down as God, then all evil will be brought to an end. It is at that time that the signs of God's wrath will be given unmixed with mercy. The plaques will be poured on the earth and God's people will be delivered.

Jesus says that when you see the abomination of desolation, when you see Satan standing in the holy place, where he should not be, then you better flee somewhere! Apparently it is going to be so bad, that if this period was not shortened, no one on earth would be able to live through it. In the past, we have had nuclear bombs landing on a few cities and we have had wide spread wars. Who knows what might happen at this time of the end. Satan has lost the battle to get everyone to worship him, so now he is going to be desperately trying to take his rulership position by force.

Since he is fighting against the Creator of all things he cannot win. Maybe much of Satan's actions is really due to revenge. At this time Psalms 91 will be a very good source of comfort to God's people since they know that God will protect His people in this time. Satan will eventually overstep his bounds when he tries to sit down as God. Then Michael will stand up and the court in Heaven will give every thing to Jesus.

Once this happens, then Jesus comes back to our world to rescue His people. As we have seen, the Bible presents a unified view of the war between God and Satan. It is when we start to study Daniel and especially Revelation that these things become evident. How can Satan claim the Earth when Psalm I see your point of issues raised in God's courts but I am confident that our mighty Lord Jesus settled all accounts at the cross.

Jesus said it is finished. Satan has power but he's not omnipresent omnipotent omniscience. He can only do what God allows. I have friends who I visited once we all went to school together so it was great to talk. They had a new son and they were having problems. At night, he would often wake up screaming from a bad dream. It seemed that he had these dreams often and they were concerned but they did not know what to do about it.

I asked them if they asked God to protect their son from the attacks of evil angels, and they shook their heads no. For some reason, they never even thought of asking God for help. I told them that if they did not pray for their son, that he would be open ground for the evil angels to attack him. The boy is too young to pray for himself, so it is the privilege and duty for the parents to pray for their children. They started praying for their son every night, and immediately, it all stopped. I think my friends gained a much deeper appreciation of the war that is going over us, but especially of the help and love that God has for each one of us.

God is always willing and waiting for us to ask for help. When we come to God, we place ourselves under His care and protection. There is nothing that Satan and his evil angels can do except what God allows them to do. In the story of Job, when Satan comes to the meeting, he accuses God of over stepping His bounds in protecting Job. In response, Jesus then tells him what He will allow him to do to Job. That is what happened both times they met. Satan can only do what God allows him to do. Yes, I agree with you that Jesus has all the power. The power that Satan has is what God allows him to have.

No more than that. Boy are we blessed! However, Something else seems to be happening because Jesus does allow Satan to temp and harass Job in trying to destroy him. Why does God allow Satan to try to destroy Job? Obviously, the war is still going on and Job's worship of God must be tested. So why does God still allow Satan to try to destroy us today? If all accounts were settled at the cross, then why are we still here?

Why are we still being tempted. Why is our faith still being tested? I believe that if every thing had been done at the cross, then evil would have been destroyed at that time.


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If the battle was won at the cross, why was not Satan thrown out at that time? But it is not. God is still allowing Satan to destroy people. Evil is being propagated and today, conditions are getting worse not better. It should be obvious that everything was NOT finished at the cross. If both God and Satan did not claim our world, there would be no war.

But it is clear in Scripture that there is indeed a battle for our world. There is a battle for the mind and it is still going on. It is not finished yet. Now, What about the fact that when Jesus was on the cross, He said "it is finished". Doesn't that mean that every thing was finished at the cross? When Jesus died, He paid the ultimate price for me and you. However, that was not the only time that Jesus is going to say "it is finished"!

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I believe that the Cross was one big step in the process. But there are other steps that is indicated in Scripture as well. Look at the following Scripture:. Now notice what happens when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet! It is at that time and not before that the world becomes fully the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ! So at an appointed time the end will come.

In Revelation, we find that this appointed time is when the seventh angel sounds:. So when the seventh angel sounds, which is yet future! It is then, and only then, that the mystery of God will be at an end and God and His Son, Jesus will begin to reign over all the kingdoms of the earth!

Satan will quickly lose all of his power to continue his torture of God's creations. God will at that time will begin to set things back to the way they should be, without sin and destruction. And the righteous will be taken up to be with Christ! We must not forget the book of Revelation when we study what Jesus does for us to save us; Because, that last book of the Bible has so much of the information that we have of Jesus Christ! I think we only have a partial Gospel when we leave out what Revelation has to say.

You know, the book of Revelation has a longer title: The Revelation of Jesus Christ. You ask why does God allow suffering on earth, does he not care? Do you see the fallacy in the whole thing. Its like turtles on turtles. Why would God being all powerful etc. Why would he allow it anywhere? Maybe the answer lies not in celestial battles but in our own nature and nature itself. Science can try to explain a lot these days.

Not celestial battles, though, unless it's battles between Suns, Planets and Black Holes. You have a very interesting question. If indeed God is all-powerful, why would He permit anarchy and suffering? What if God had offered all His creations subjects complete freedom. God could very easily force all His created beings into obeying Him. He is all powerful, He could do that. However, what if He really does value the free choice of His creations. How can God allow free choice if He forces all to obey Him?

He cannot, God cannot do both. It does not make sense! Even though God is all powerful, God cannot just zap people out of existence or to change their memory, etc. From the Bible, we see that it goes against what God's wishes to do. It would go against God's own value system because He is merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abounding in goodness and truth Exodus To say it another way: What if God wanted all His creations to worship Him by choice and not because He forces them to worship Him? How would He do that? Would He destroy all who would choose to go against Him before they are able to do so?

Would He just change their thinking so they don't even know what they were thinking about earlier? Would He have created His creations so they could not have revolted against Him? No, none of these options work. God Himself would know that He was not allowing complete free choice. If God really wanted His creations to actually love Him and appreciate what He does for them. They would want to serve Him!

When I read the Bible, I see evidence that God really does value free choice and freedom for His creations. We can see that in the stories of the Bible. We do not see God changing people's thoughts, but rather, we see that God works with us so that we can make a free choice. On the other hand, it is Satan who forces others to follow and serve him. When people are possessed, they no longer have the will to leave Satan behind. Satan takes control of them and he will never let them go, not if he can help it.

We also see that Satan tries to either trick or he will use fear to force people into serving Him. In addition, we find that when Satan cannot get a person to follow Him, he will want to try to kill them. You make a good point. If I were God I would also allow my creation free choice. That is not in dispute for me. The problem with this free choice is that it is extremely unequally distributed. You just have to look around and you will see that not everyone has the "free choice" which God "intended" us to have.

I give an example: What if there are so many set-backs in your life that you give up hope and come to the conclusion that there is no point to your life don't misinterpret, I am not suggesting I have those feelings to a higher degree. Albert Einstein wrote I got this quote from a book given to me by a Jehovah's Witness: Do you see how true to human nature this statement is. According to Einstein these people do not deserve to live. Nature is like that. Survival of the fittest and forget about the weak. So my point is, its nature at work and not a loving God of the Bible who helps you as long as you accept Him like the stories in the Old Testament.

Then, having said all this, maybe we chose this path to come closer to God. Maybe almost surely it takes a lot of first-hand knowledge of good and evil in order to understand deeply the importance of love. One who brings A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time. Here at least We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built Here for his envy, will not drive us hence: Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.

But wherefore let we then our faithful friends, Th' associates and copartners of our loss [ ] Lye thus astonisht on th' oblivious Pool , And call them not to share with us their part In this unhappy Mansion, or once more With rallied Arms to try what may be yet Regaind in Heav'n , or what more lost in Hell? So Satan spake, and him Beelzebub Thus answer'd.

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Leader of those Armies bright, Which but th' Onmipotent none could have foyld , If once they hear that voyce , thir liveliest pledge Of hope in fears and dangers, heard so oft [ ] In worst extreams , and on the perilous edge Of battel when it rag'd , in all assaults Thir surest signal, they will soon resume New courage and revive, though now they lye Groveling and prostrate on yon Lake of Fire, [ ] As we erewhile, astounded and amaz'd , No wonder, fall'n such a pernicious highth. He scarce had ceas't when the superiour Fiend Was moving toward the shoar ; his ponderous shield Ethereal temper , massy, large and round, [ ] Behind him cast; the broad circumference Hung on his shoulders like the Moon, whose Orb Through Optic Glass the Tuscan Artist views At Ev'ning from the top of Fesole , Or in Valdarno, to descry new Lands, [ ] Rivers or Mountains in her spotty Globe.

His Spear, to equal which the tallest Pine Hewn on Norwegian hills, to be the Mast Of some great Ammiral , were but a wand, He walkt with to support uneasie steps [ ] Over the burning Marle , not like those steps On Heavens Azure, and the torrid Clime Smote on him sore besides, vaulted with Fire; Nathless he so endur'd , till on the Beach Of that inflamed Sea, he stood and call'd [ ] His Legions, Angel Forms, who lay intrans't Thick as Autumnal Leaves that strow the Brooks In Vallombrosa, where th' Etrurian shades High overarch't imbowr ; or scatterd sedge Afloat, when with fierce Winds Orion arm'd [ ] Hath vext the Red-Sea Coast, whose waves orethrew Busiris and his Memphian Chivalry, While with perfidious hatred they pursu'd The Sojourners of Goshen, who beheld From the safe shore thir floating Carkases [ ] And broken Chariot Wheels, so thick bestrown Abject and lost lay these, covering the Flood, Under amazement of thir hideous change.

He call'd so loud, that all the hollow Deep Of Hell resounded. Princes, Potentates, [ ] Warriers , the Flowr of Heav'n , once yours, now lost, If such astonishment as this can sieze Eternal spirits; or have ye chos'n this place After the toyl of Battel to repose Your wearied vertue , for the ease you find [ ] To slumber here, as in the Vales of Heav'n? Or in this abject posture have ye sworn To adore the Conquerour? Awake, arise, or be for ever fall'n. They heard, and were abasht , and up they sprung Upon the wing, as when men wont to watch On duty, sleeping found by whom they dread, Rouse and bestir themselves ere well awake.

Nor did they not perceave the evil plight [ ] In which they were, or the fierce pains not feel; Yet to thir Generals Voyce they soon obeyd Innumerable. So numberless were those bad Angels seen Hovering on wing under the Cope of Hell [ ] 'Twixt upper, nether, and surrounding Fires; Till, as a signal giv'n , th' uplifted Spear Of thir great Sultan waving to direct Thir course, in even ballance down they light On the firm brimstone, and fill all the Plain; [ ] A multitude, like which the populous North Pour'd never from her frozen loyns , to pass Rhene or the Danaw, when her barbarous Sons Came like a Deluge on the South, and spread Beneath Gibralter to the Lybian sands.

Nor had they yet among the Sons of Eve Got them new Names , till wandring ore the Earth, [ ] Through Gods high sufferance for the tryal of man, By falsities and lyes the greatest part Of Mankind they corrupted to forsake God thir Creator, and th' invisible Glory of him that made them, to transform [ ] Oft to the Image of a Brute, a dorn'd With gay Religions full of Pomp and Gold, And Devils to adore for Deities: First Moloch, horrid King besmear'd with blood Of human sacrifice, and parents tears, Though for the noyse of Drums and Timbrels loud Thir childrens cries unheard , that past through fire [ ] To his grim Idol.

Peor his other Name, when he entic'd Israel in Sittim on thir march from Nile To do him wanton rites, which cost them woe. Yet thence his lustful Orgies he enlarg'd [ ] Even to that Hill of scandal , by the Grove Of Moloch homicide, lust hard by hate; Till good Josiah drove them thence to Hell. For Spirits when they please Can either Sex assume, or both; so soft And uncompounded is thir Essence pure , [ ] Not ti'd or manacl'd with joynt or limb, Nor founded on the brittle strength of bones, Like cumbrous flesh; but in what shape they choose Dilated or condens't , bright or obscure, Can execute thir aerie purposes, [ ] And works of love or enmity fulfill.

For those the Race of Israel oft forsook Thir living strength , and unfrequented left His righteous Altar, bowing lowly down To bestial Gods; for which thir heads as low [ ] Bow'd down in Battel , sunk before the Spear Of despicable foes. Thammuz came next behind, Whose annual wound in Lebanon allur'd The Syrian Damsels to lament his fate In amorous dittyes all a Summers day, While smooth Adonis from his native Rock [ ] Ran purple to the Sea, suppos'd with blood Of Thammuz yearly wounded: Next came one Who mourn'd in earnest, when the Captive Ark Maim'd his brute Image, head and hands lopt off In his own Temple, on the grunsel edge, [ ] Where he fell flat, and sham'd his Worshipers: He also against the house of God was bold: Belial came last, then whom a Spirit more lewd [ ] Fell not from Heaven, or more gross to love Vice for it self: Witness the Streets of Sodom, and that night In Gibeah, when the hospitable door Expos'd a Matron to avoid worse rape.

All these and more came flocking; but with looks Down cast and damp, yet such wherein appear'd Obscure some glimps of joy, to have found thir chief Not in despair, to have found themselves not lost [ ] In loss it self; which on his count'nance cast Like doubtful hue: All in a moment through the gloom were seen Ten thousand Banners rise into the Air [ ] With Orient Colours waving: Anon they move In perfect Phalanx to the Dorian mood [ ] Of Flutes and soft Recorders; such as rais'd To hight of noblest temper Hero's old Arming to Battel , and in stead of rage Deliberate valour breath'd , firm and unmov'd With dread of death to flight or foul retreat, [ ] Nor wanting power to mitigate and swage With solemn touches, troubl'd thoughts, and chase Anguish and doubt and fear and sorrow and pain From mortal or immortal minds.

Thus they Breathing united force with fixed thought [ ] Mov'd on in silence to soft Pipes that charm'd Thir painful steps o're the burnt soyle ; and now Advanc't in view, they stand, a horrid Front Of dreadful length and dazling Arms, in guise Of Warriers old with order'd Spear and Shield, [ ] Awaiting what command thir mighty Chief Had to impose: He through the armed Files Darts his experienc't eye, and soon traverse The whole Battalion views, thir order due, Thir visages and stature as of Gods, [ ] Thir number last he summs.

And now his heart Distends with pride, and hardning in his strength Glories: For never since created man, Met such imbodied force, as nam'd with these Could merit more then that small infantry [ ] Warr'd on by Cranes: Thus far these beyond Compare of mortal prowess, yet observ'd Thir dread commander: Dark'n'd so, yet shon Above them all th' Arch Angel: He now prepar'd [ ] To speak; whereat thir doubl'd Ranks they bend From wing to wing, and half enclose him round With all his Peers: Thrice he assayd , and thrice in spight of scorn, Tears such as Angels weep , burst forth: O Myriads of immortal Spirits, O Powers Matchless, but with th' Almighty, and that strife Was not inglorious, though th' event was dire, As this place testifies, and this dire change [ ] Hateful to utter: For mee be witness all the Host of Heav'n , [ ] If counsels different, or danger shun'd By me, have lost our hopes.

But he who reigns Monarch in Heav'n , till then as one secure Sat on his Throne, upheld by old repute, Consent or custome , and his Regal State [ ] Put forth at full, but still his strength conceal'd , Which tempted our attempt, and wrought our fall. Henceforth his might we know, and know our own So as not either to provoke, or dread New warr , provok't ; our better part remains [ ] To work in close design, by fraud or guile What force effected not: Space may produce new Worlds; whereof so rife [ ] There went a fame in Heav'n that he ere long Intended to create , and therein plant A generation, whom his choice regard Should favour equal to the Sons of Heaven: Thither, if but to pry, shall be perhaps Our first eruption, thither or elsewhere: But these thoughts Full Counsel must mature: Peace is despaird , [ ] For who can think Submission?

Warr then, Warr Open or understood must be resolv'd. There stood a Hill not far whose griesly top [ ] Belch'd fire and rowling smoak ; the rest entire Shon with a glossie scurff , undoubted sign That in his womb was hid metallic Ore, The work of Sulphur. Thither wing'd with speed A numerous Brigad hasten'd.

Mammon led them on, Mammon, the least erected Spirit that fell From heav'n , for ev'n in heav'n his looks and thoughts [ ] Were always downward bent , admiring more The riches of Heav'ns pavement, trod'n Gold, Then aught divine or holy else enjoy'd In vision beatific: Soon had his crew Op'nd into the Hill a spacious wound And dig'd out ribs of Gold. Let none admire [ ] That riches grow in Hell; that soyle may best Deserve the precious bane. And here let those Who boast in mortal things, and wond'ring tell Of Babel, and the works of Memphian Kings Learn how thir greatest Monuments of Fame, [ ] And Strength and Art are easily out-done By Spirits reprobate, and in an hour What in an age they with incessant toyle And hands innumerable scarce perform.